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This is why we strongly recommend using backups to migrate from V4(Debian 11) to v4.5(Debian 12).
When using the script, you must consider that depending on each case, some packages might get uninstalled because of different reasons. This is why, we recommend:
1- Using the Backup and Restore method
2- Create a Snapshot or get a Backup before running the script.
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I strongly encourage the VitalPBX team to reconsider this, and please work towards releasing an automated upgrade script.
Migrating from v3 to v4 was a long painful process and as a admin of multiple VitalPBX servers, I’d rather not go through that pain again…
The migration that way is long process as well as moving everything is not just a simple backup and restore, that really only happens with smaller systems. So it would really really help out everyone to fine tune the script to upgrade to Debian 12 and Vital v4.5 as smoothly as possible.
While using a script to upgrade VitalPBX on a production server, some packages might get uninstalled due to several factors:
Obsolete Packages: Debian 12 may no longer support certain packages, leading to their removal.
Dependency Conflicts: When newer software versions are installed, they might conflict with existing packages, forcing their uninstallation.
During a major upgrade, configuration files may be overwritten, and default behaviors may change. This can cause VitalPBX components (like Sonata or Asterisk) to break, especially if configurations have been customized or tailored to the production environment.
Why doesn’t the script handle these issues better?
A one-size-fits-all script would struggle to account for every possible setup.
Package conflicts and dependency issues are often unpredictable. The script would need extensive logic to handle these gracefully.
While Debian offers an upgrade path, it is a general-purpose approach. VitalPBX is a specialized application stack that depends on specific versions of Asterisk, PHP, and other components. These dependencies might not align perfectly with Debian’s upgrade processes.
Obsolete Packages: Debian 12 may no longer support certain packages, leading to their removal.
Dependency Conflicts: When newer software versions are installed, they might conflict with existing packages, forcing their uninstallation.
Removal of packages is understandable there is an upgrade happening if people have been adding extra repos to the system they can certainly have issues if they dont remove any non compatible repos but for vital dependencies there shouldn’t be a problem as stuff that is not needed should be removed to install the new stuff. The biggest example would be apache right, it needs to be removed in order for nginx to be installed.
While Debian offers an upgrade path, it is a general-purpose approach. VitalPBX is a specialized application stack that depends on specific versions of Asterisk, PHP, and other components. These dependencies might not align perfectly with Debian’s upgrade processes.
Arent all those already managed in the vital repos directly? Anything that is key to vital is usually coming from your own repo right?
During the migration of VitalPBX from Debian 11 to Debian 12, it is expected that certain packages, such as Apache 2 and PHP 8.1, may be removed since they are direct dependencies of VitalPBX, this can lead to the removal of the VitalPBX core package itself, which in turn may cause some VitalPBX add-ons to be removed as well. The upgrade process can also potentially remove other direct dependencies, which may not always be predictable. As a result, migrating via a script can lead to some level of unpredictability due to the possible removal of additional packages. Currently, we haven’t found a zero-error method using a migration script.